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Major spoilers from other movies below to give examples of twists -, but there is nothing that I remember in se7en that could be considered a "twist", so I'd really.


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TIL the head-in-the-box ending of "Se7en" was originally rejected by the studio, but David Fincher was accidentally sent the original screenplay with that ending,​.


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I watched Se7en for the first time today, I was completely blind going in.. Spoilers. nsfw. The only thing I knew was that Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman were in it.


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Ugh, I really hate how eager my mind is to fill in the blanks. I think Seven is a great movie, but I fast forward through the Lust kill, every time.


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But Se7en it's such damn will made Noir Thriller that I keep going back to it at least once a month. The movie also basically show Hollywood that David Fincher​.


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25 votes, 66 comments. If you don't know already this is a Fincher film based on the seven deadly sins. It has Brad Pitt and Morgan Freemon. The .


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It could seem like a cut and paste detective story. But the beauty is in the slight variations. The serial killer's method of killing people based on the seven deadly​.


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Se7en's ending is more than just the bad guy winning. Like Rashomon, it sticks out in your mind because there is no solution. Brad Pitt faces a.


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Se7en is my favorite movie of all time. Fincher did an incredible job as a director. The movie is dark, thrilling, unpredictable and brutal. But today I noticed.


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Could someone explain to me why the movie "Se7en" is good? I tried watching the film because it had a really high IMDB score. I got to the part where Morgan.


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Submit link. Doe envied a normal life. What do you guys think? I get that, but I feel it would have made more sense if it correlated with the other deaths. My opinion is that when Mills shoots Doe, Doe gets punished for his envy towards Mills. Mills is wrathful that his homelife got ruined. Umm, you might want to do some reading about what usually happens to cops who shoot a suspect. Likely will plea out to temp insanity, but will never be able to be a law officer again. Thanks for answering! Mills killing Doe is an action of wrath, of that I agree, but he doesn't get punished for it by death, like the other six sins. Doe reveals that he was so jealous of Mills that he killed Tracy, her death being a result of his envy, and that her head is in the box. From the film's Wikipedia page: Doe reveals that he was so jealous of Mills that he killed Tracy, her death being a result of his envy, and that her head is in the box. Become a Redditor and join one of thousands of communities. But how does one explain the envy and wrath deaths? His whole life had been that job. He should have killed himself but he couldn't or wouldn't. Submit text. It's a make up your own ending in a way, like inception. The post will then be hidden like this. It's kind of been in the news a little bit lately Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Okay, so we know the seven death sins are gluttony, greed, sloth, lust, pride, envy and wrath. He calls her a "disease spreading whore". Great film. Mills can't continue as a cop, this would not be allowed he shot a man, justified in thoery but not by law. Is he dreaming or is he finally awake with his kids. So the consensus is that the "envy" death is Tracy's because Doe envies Mills' personal life, and that Doe's death is the "wrath" one because Mills is filled with rage when he kills him? Yeah, but I just don't get how that correlates with the first five deaths. Welcome to Reddit, the front page of the internet. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. The victim is not always the perpetrator. I'm just looking for an answer cause I'm not on board with the "Tracy died and her death was the "envy" death in the movie"-thing. I'm aware that there are terrible reasons that people become prostitutes but I don't think it's juvenile to think that it is viewed as a more sinful profession than being a teacher Tracy , especially from the perspective of John Doe. This is after the detectives arrive at Does apartment - before the chase. Want to add to the discussion? Learning that his persistence of pushing the case cause doe to pursue his life as the course of his sins that need to be punished. So he kills Tracy instead so he can get two birds with one stone. It's been a while since I last watched that film but I'm sure Doe said he never killed "good people" but I suppose he had to at the end to enable the wrath killing, thus being Mills when he finds out the truth about Tracy. Post a comment! Tracy wasn't envious of anything that we know of, so isn't her death more of a plot drive instead of a death related to the seven death sins? The punishment is death before he is dead and he must suffer it daily. Yes, he loses his wife, his unborn child and his career, but he doesn't pay with his life, like the other six sinners do.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} Like I said, I'm sure Doe's intention wasn't so messy for the last sins but since he had Mills and Somerset closing in on him Doe had to think of another way to accomplish his plan and in horrific fashion he ultimately did. Yeah, that may have been a poor choice of a title for the question. Doe tries to goad Mills into vengeance, to become wrath and shoot him. Your view of prostitution is quite juvenile. Yeah, but I guess to be a prostitute you have to have some lust more than Tracy is envious anyway. His life after the incident is the punishment. Want to join? Personally I feel losing everything would eventually lead him to possibly becoming suicidal and taking his own life. There are a lot of horrible reasons people become prostitutes, but there are many who do it of their own free will. If Tracy is killed for Doe's envy, that doesn't correlate with the five earlier deaths. I mean, being a prostitute is considered more of a sin than being a teacher, isn't it? Twas the butler! I don't think it's juvenile to think that it is viewed as a more sinful profession than being a teacher. I'm sure Doe's grand plan was something that didn't end with his death and each victim dying for their sin but Doe was almost caught so plans had to change. I believe Doe killed Tracy because she refused to go with him, and overall Doe was envious of the family life he always wanted but never had, which Mills had it all. My take is that by killing Tracy, Doe gets Mills to punish him for his envy, sorting the sixth sin and the "Wrath" sin is Mills being punished by losing his wife, his unborn child and his career. Create an account. He comes back later under the guise as a photographer to take photos and does his own detective work on Mills, likes what he sees and does as he says - changes his plan, though it still fits loosely with his original motive. He says in a letter? All rights reserved. What about the prostitute who was killed because of her clients lust, that matches Tracy being killed for John's envy. Not that Doe will ever find that out. I see now that it's not really about the ending, but about the seven death sins in relation to the on-screen deaths. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Our Full Rules and Wiki. The obese man gets punished for his gluttony, the lawyer for his greed etc. It doesn't make sense to me that Tracy gets killed for John Doe's envy. Mills, out of wrath, killing Doe for his envy. Not only that he realizes his taking for granted what he had with Tracy. Doe despised the prostitute and her work so he made sure she got killed in a horrible way. Either way John Doe viewed her as sinful because sex for pleasure in general is technically a sin. Click 'spoiler' after posting something to give it a spoiler tag! One of my all-time favourites. Doe calls her a "disease spreading whore", so I guess you could say Doe punished her for spreading diseases through sex, which is affiliated with lust. I honestly thought after reading the title that you was just going to ask "what was in the box? I guess it's one of those endings where you could have your own outcome. The first 5 deaths are clear to me in terms of their relation to the death sins. Log in or sign up in seconds. Tracy didn't do anything wrong that we know of so her death has nothing to do with the seven deadly sins.